By W D Nicolson, July 02, 2012
NSW are exactly where they were 12 months ago... only the pain of losing seven straight Origin Series will - I guarantee - be worse than losing six.
But can NSW actually win Game 3 and actually WIN a State of Origin Series for the first time since 2005?
You bet they can.
Now, whether they can or whether they will are two different things but there are at least four good reasons why NSW can win.
No Ashley Harrison - Heart and soul type in the QLD backrow who does all the little things his more heralded team-mates need done to be successful.
No Dave Taylor - Game changing forward omitted for a good club player in Ben Te'o. It makes no sense to replace Taylor with another hot and cold type in Te'o and every NSW man and woman breathed a lot easier when Mal Meninga panicked and dropped DT.
No Billy Slater - Easily in the Top 3 players in the game conversation if not the actual best, his ability to WIN games with a moment or a full game of brilliance is going to really really really be missed by the Maroons.
And finally...
No Darren Lockyer - The great man who inspired the QLD turnaround (remember he experienced NSW's 3 straight series wins from 2002-2004) has not played in this series at all due to the fact he retired at the end of 2011 - but he is arguably an even bigger loss than Slater for Game 3.
The reason is Lockyer really knew what losing a series to NSW is like and that no doubt whatsoever drove him to make the current QLD dynasty continue while he was in the team.
But he's gone now and only Johnathan Thurston, Cameron Smith, Petero Civoniceva, Brent Tate and Justin Hodges know what losing a series feels like amongst the QLD team, and the other two that have been in the squad this series - Slater and Harrison won't play.
Don't underestimate the value of the fear of losing, and it will fall to Smith, Civoniceva and Thurston to remind all the 'winners' in the QLD camp that losing downright sucks at Origin level.
Mind you, only Luke Lewis and Anthony Watmough have experienced a series NSW have actually won - so maybe the above stat is negated a little.
But not by much - NSW want nothing more than to win on Wednesday night, while the vast majority of QLDers don't know what it is like to lose.
That is advantage NSW. Six straight series wins or not... And that means NSW can win.
And quite frankly, they have to.
What are your thoughts on Game 3? Comment below or hit me up on Twitter @NRLTweet
PODCAST PREVIEW HERE
LATEST TEAM NEWS 30/6
Glenn Stewart is out for NSW, replaced in the starting team by either Beau Scott or Ben Creagh. Trent Merrin has already been cut. Brett Morris will play left wing and Jarryd Hayne moves to the right.
Billy Slater is out for QLD, Greg Inglis to fullback and Dane Nielsen into the centres. Dave Taylor has been cut and Ben Te'o is on the bench. Matt Bowen is 18th man and there is even talk that Dave Taylor could come in for Matt Gillett before kick-off!
Game 3 kicks-off at around 8:00pm on Wednesday July 4 at Suncorp Stadium in Brisbane.
GAME 3 PREDICTIONS
The Game 1 and 2 leaderboard is in and the author is covering the rest of you like ash from a volcano... getting the Game 2 score 100% right kind of helped, but a perfect effort in Game 3 could vault you into the lead.
We have changed up the Exotic Over/Unders for Game 3 to keep it fresh, but the basic categories stay the same. There is a weighted scoring system - essentially pick the score kicks butt over anything else (up to 5 points for a Full Time Correct Score), while the 1st tryscorer, Man of the Match, 1st Error markets etc are worth 1 point each and any correct Over/Under is worth half a point.
Here we go with our Game 3 Predictions. Post your predictions either below or on our NRL Podcast Facebook Entry Form.
GAME 3 PREDICTIONS
FULL TIME SCORE
Warrick Nicolson - NSW 13-12
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - NSW 20-16
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - QLD 20-16
HALF TIME SCORE
Warrick Nicolson - 6-ALL
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - QLD 12-10
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - QLD 10-8
MAN OF THE MATCH
Warrick Nicolson - Robbie Farah (will probably earn it but watch Paul Gallen get it when NSW win)
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - Paul Gallen
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - Greg Inglis
1ST TRYSCORER
Warrick Nicolson - Darius Boyd
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - Greg Inglis
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - Greg Inglis
LAST TRYSCORER
Warrick Nicolson - Jarryd Hayne
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - Josh Morris
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - Greg Inglis
1ST ERROR MADE
Warrick Nicolson - Sam Thaiday
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - James Tamou
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - He said Mullen... sorry who genius?
1ST PENALTY CONCEDED
Warrick Nicolson - Corey Parker
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - Paul Gallen
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - Beau Scott
MOST TACKLES
Warrick Nicolson - Robbie Farah
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - Robbie Farah
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - Cameron Smith
MOST METRES
Warrick Nicolson - Paul Gallen
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - James Tamou
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - Greg Inglis
MOST KICKS IN GENERAL PLAY
Warrick Nicolson - Mitchell Pearce
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - Cooper Cronk
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - Mitchell Pearce
OVER/UNDER OPTIONS - Correct = 0.5 point
Simply put you decide if the player in question will have more or less than the predetermined figure - set at a half point.
Ben TE'O's IMPACT? - Over/Under 20.5 Combined Tackles/Runs
Warrick Nicolson - Under
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - Under
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - Over
COMBINED CENTRE TRIES - Over/Under 1.5 Total Tries for Morris/Jennings and Nielsen/Hodges
Warrick Nicolson - Under
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - Over
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - Under
TRIES FROM KICKS - Over/Under 3.5
Warrick Nicolson - Under
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - Over
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - Under
TOTAL MINUTES OF GAME - Over/Under 80.5 (Extra Time or not?)
Warrick Nicolson - Under
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - Under
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - Under
TOTAL PENALTIES - Over/Under 6.5
Warrick Nicolson - Under
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - Under
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - Under
For the record www.wdnicolson.com is predicting a 19-18 NSW victory.
NSW 13
(B Morris, J Hayne Tries; T Carney 2/2 Goals, R Farah 1 Field Goal)
Defeat
QLD 12
(D Boyd, G Inglis Tries; J Thurston 2/2 Goals)
If you would like to take a crack at our panellists picks with your own - enter them here on NOT The Footy Show's Facebook Page before kick-off Wednesday.
TEAMS GAME THREE
NEW SOUTH WALES BLUES
- Official Game 3 Squad -
Likely starting team below.
FB: Brett STEWART
WI: Jarryd HAYNE
CE: Michael JENNINGS
CE: Josh MORRIS
WI: Brett MORRIS
FE: Todd CARNEY
HB: Mitchell PEARCE
PR: James TAMOU
HK: Robbie FARAH
PR: Tim GRANT
SR: Beau SCOTT
SR: Greg BIRD
LK: Paul GALLEN (c)
Bench:
Luke LEWIS
Anthony WATMOUGH
Tony WILLIAMS
Ben CREAGH
Trent MERRIN (18th Man)
Coach: Ricky STUART.
GRADE: B
QUICK HIT POSITIONAL ANALYSIS:
Glenn Stewart is OUT, so Ricky Stuart must decide if Luke Lewis, Ben Creagh, Anthony Watmough or Beau Scott is his best starting right edge second rower. The decision could shape the outcome of the series because if he gets it wrong - NSW are in all sorts. Tony Williams will play, with Trent Merrin to miss out. Brett Morris is in for Akuila Uate but Stuart is dreaming if he thinks QLD won't just target Morris like they did Uate. Team is good enough to win, now do the players believe it?
QUEENSLAND MAROONS
- Official Game 3 Squad -
Likely starting team below.
FB: Greg INGLIS
WI: Darius BOYD
CE: Dane NIELSEN
CE: Justin HODGES
WI: Brent TATE
FE: Johnathan THURSTON
HB: Cooper CRONK
PR: Matthew SCOTT
HK: Cameron SMITH (c)
PR: Petero CIVONICEVA
SR: Nate MYLES
SR: Sam THAIDAY
LK: Corey PARKER
Bench:
Matt GILLETT
Ben TE'O
Ben HANNANT
David SHILLINGTON
Matthew BOWEN (18th Man)
Dave TAYLOR (19th Man)
Coach: Mal MENINGA.
GRADE: B+.
QUICK HIT POSITIONAL ANALYSIS:
No Ben Barba which makes a lot of NSW fans happy... but even Matt Bowen who was picked ahead of Barba as cover for Billy Slater (who was then ruled out) didn't make the final team, with Dane Nielsen coming in. Ben Te'o has ridiculously replaced Dave Taylor and it doesn't make a lot of sense given he's a liability defensively. Dane Nielsen will play now Slater is out and Greg Inglis is picked at fullback. Now Slater and Taylor are out and Darren Lockyer retired, QLD look rattled for the first time in a few years... Ben Te'o? Please!
Agree or Disagree with Ricky Stuart's NSW or Mal Meninga's QLD team?
If you've got a view - let us know in the comments below or via @NRLTweet
NOT The Footy Show will recap Game 3 in full on Episode 114 this Thursday July 5 and the Podcast will be uploaded by 11pm.
But can NSW actually win Game 3 and actually WIN a State of Origin Series for the first time since 2005?
You bet they can.
Now, whether they can or whether they will are two different things but there are at least four good reasons why NSW can win.
No Ashley Harrison - Heart and soul type in the QLD backrow who does all the little things his more heralded team-mates need done to be successful.
No Dave Taylor - Game changing forward omitted for a good club player in Ben Te'o. It makes no sense to replace Taylor with another hot and cold type in Te'o and every NSW man and woman breathed a lot easier when Mal Meninga panicked and dropped DT.
No Billy Slater - Easily in the Top 3 players in the game conversation if not the actual best, his ability to WIN games with a moment or a full game of brilliance is going to really really really be missed by the Maroons.
And finally...
No Darren Lockyer - The great man who inspired the QLD turnaround (remember he experienced NSW's 3 straight series wins from 2002-2004) has not played in this series at all due to the fact he retired at the end of 2011 - but he is arguably an even bigger loss than Slater for Game 3.
The reason is Lockyer really knew what losing a series to NSW is like and that no doubt whatsoever drove him to make the current QLD dynasty continue while he was in the team.
But he's gone now and only Johnathan Thurston, Cameron Smith, Petero Civoniceva, Brent Tate and Justin Hodges know what losing a series feels like amongst the QLD team, and the other two that have been in the squad this series - Slater and Harrison won't play.
Don't underestimate the value of the fear of losing, and it will fall to Smith, Civoniceva and Thurston to remind all the 'winners' in the QLD camp that losing downright sucks at Origin level.
Mind you, only Luke Lewis and Anthony Watmough have experienced a series NSW have actually won - so maybe the above stat is negated a little.
But not by much - NSW want nothing more than to win on Wednesday night, while the vast majority of QLDers don't know what it is like to lose.
That is advantage NSW. Six straight series wins or not... And that means NSW can win.
And quite frankly, they have to.
What are your thoughts on Game 3? Comment below or hit me up on Twitter @NRLTweet
PODCAST PREVIEW HERE
LATEST TEAM NEWS 30/6
Glenn Stewart is out for NSW, replaced in the starting team by either Beau Scott or Ben Creagh. Trent Merrin has already been cut. Brett Morris will play left wing and Jarryd Hayne moves to the right.
Billy Slater is out for QLD, Greg Inglis to fullback and Dane Nielsen into the centres. Dave Taylor has been cut and Ben Te'o is on the bench. Matt Bowen is 18th man and there is even talk that Dave Taylor could come in for Matt Gillett before kick-off!
Game 3 kicks-off at around 8:00pm on Wednesday July 4 at Suncorp Stadium in Brisbane.
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GAME 3 PREDICTIONS
The Game 1 and 2 leaderboard is in and the author is covering the rest of you like ash from a volcano... getting the Game 2 score 100% right kind of helped, but a perfect effort in Game 3 could vault you into the lead.
We have changed up the Exotic Over/Unders for Game 3 to keep it fresh, but the basic categories stay the same. There is a weighted scoring system - essentially pick the score kicks butt over anything else (up to 5 points for a Full Time Correct Score), while the 1st tryscorer, Man of the Match, 1st Error markets etc are worth 1 point each and any correct Over/Under is worth half a point.
Here we go with our Game 3 Predictions. Post your predictions either below or on our NRL Podcast Facebook Entry Form.
GAME 3 PREDICTIONS
FULL TIME SCORE
Warrick Nicolson - NSW 13-12
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - NSW 20-16
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - QLD 20-16
HALF TIME SCORE
Warrick Nicolson - 6-ALL
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - QLD 12-10
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - QLD 10-8
MAN OF THE MATCH
Warrick Nicolson - Robbie Farah (will probably earn it but watch Paul Gallen get it when NSW win)
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - Paul Gallen
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - Greg Inglis
1ST TRYSCORER
Warrick Nicolson - Darius Boyd
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - Greg Inglis
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - Greg Inglis
LAST TRYSCORER
Warrick Nicolson - Jarryd Hayne
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - Josh Morris
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - Greg Inglis
1ST ERROR MADE
Warrick Nicolson - Sam Thaiday
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - James Tamou
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - He said Mullen... sorry who genius?
1ST PENALTY CONCEDED
Warrick Nicolson - Corey Parker
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - Paul Gallen
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - Beau Scott
MOST TACKLES
Warrick Nicolson - Robbie Farah
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - Robbie Farah
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - Cameron Smith
MOST METRES
Warrick Nicolson - Paul Gallen
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - James Tamou
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - Greg Inglis
MOST KICKS IN GENERAL PLAY
Warrick Nicolson - Mitchell Pearce
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - Cooper Cronk
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - Mitchell Pearce
OVER/UNDER OPTIONS - Correct = 0.5 point
Simply put you decide if the player in question will have more or less than the predetermined figure - set at a half point.
Ben TE'O's IMPACT? - Over/Under 20.5 Combined Tackles/Runs
Warrick Nicolson - Under
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - Under
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - Over
COMBINED CENTRE TRIES - Over/Under 1.5 Total Tries for Morris/Jennings and Nielsen/Hodges
Warrick Nicolson - Under
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - Over
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - Under
TRIES FROM KICKS - Over/Under 3.5
Warrick Nicolson - Under
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - Over
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - Under
TOTAL MINUTES OF GAME - Over/Under 80.5 (Extra Time or not?)
Warrick Nicolson - Under
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - Under
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - Under
TOTAL PENALTIES - Over/Under 6.5
Warrick Nicolson - Under
Matthew Duncan - TBA
Dave Chapman - TBA
Maria Tsialis - Under
Nic McInerney - TBA
George Taylor - Under
For the record www.wdnicolson.com is predicting a 19-18 NSW victory.
NSW 13
(B Morris, J Hayne Tries; T Carney 2/2 Goals, R Farah 1 Field Goal)
Defeat
QLD 12
(D Boyd, G Inglis Tries; J Thurston 2/2 Goals)
If you would like to take a crack at our panellists picks with your own - enter them here on NOT The Footy Show's Facebook Page before kick-off Wednesday.
TEAMS GAME THREE
- Official Game 3 Squad -
Likely starting team below.
FB: Brett STEWART
WI: Jarryd HAYNE
CE: Michael JENNINGS
CE: Josh MORRIS
WI: Brett MORRIS
FE: Todd CARNEY
HB: Mitchell PEARCE
PR: James TAMOU
HK: Robbie FARAH
PR: Tim GRANT
SR: Beau SCOTT
SR: Greg BIRD
LK: Paul GALLEN (c)
Bench:
Luke LEWIS
Anthony WATMOUGH
Tony WILLIAMS
Ben CREAGH
Trent MERRIN (18th Man)
Coach: Ricky STUART.
GRADE: B
QUICK HIT POSITIONAL ANALYSIS:
Glenn Stewart is OUT, so Ricky Stuart must decide if Luke Lewis, Ben Creagh, Anthony Watmough or Beau Scott is his best starting right edge second rower. The decision could shape the outcome of the series because if he gets it wrong - NSW are in all sorts. Tony Williams will play, with Trent Merrin to miss out. Brett Morris is in for Akuila Uate but Stuart is dreaming if he thinks QLD won't just target Morris like they did Uate. Team is good enough to win, now do the players believe it?
QUEENSLAND MAROONS
- Official Game 3 Squad -
Likely starting team below.
FB: Greg INGLIS
WI: Darius BOYD
CE: Dane NIELSEN
CE: Justin HODGES
WI: Brent TATE
FE: Johnathan THURSTON
HB: Cooper CRONK
PR: Matthew SCOTT
HK: Cameron SMITH (c)
PR: Petero CIVONICEVA
SR: Nate MYLES
SR: Sam THAIDAY
LK: Corey PARKER
Bench:
Matt GILLETT
Ben TE'O
Ben HANNANT
David SHILLINGTON
Matthew BOWEN (18th Man)
Dave TAYLOR (19th Man)
Coach: Mal MENINGA.
GRADE: B+.
QUICK HIT POSITIONAL ANALYSIS:
No Ben Barba which makes a lot of NSW fans happy... but even Matt Bowen who was picked ahead of Barba as cover for Billy Slater (who was then ruled out) didn't make the final team, with Dane Nielsen coming in. Ben Te'o has ridiculously replaced Dave Taylor and it doesn't make a lot of sense given he's a liability defensively. Dane Nielsen will play now Slater is out and Greg Inglis is picked at fullback. Now Slater and Taylor are out and Darren Lockyer retired, QLD look rattled for the first time in a few years... Ben Te'o? Please!
Agree or Disagree with Ricky Stuart's NSW or Mal Meninga's QLD team?
If you've got a view - let us know in the comments below or via @NRLTweet
NOT The Footy Show will recap Game 3 in full on Episode 114 this Thursday July 5 and the Podcast will be uploaded by 11pm.
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